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Forum for English speaking Miranda NG users => Miranda NG general talk => Topic started by: Remmon on 30 07 2014, 09:02:25
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My daughter changed her IM manager from Pidgin to Miranda NG in order to do a group chat:
1) Group chat doesn't work in msn.
We communicate through the MSN protocol.
(she has a "live" address, I have an "hotmail" address)
When we click on Create Chat or Convert chat Miranga NG Crashes.
On my pc and if my daughter does click on Create Chat
or Convert chat also her PC crashes.
2) Colored text
MSN users told me that they don't see the colored text but only
the color tags "color=red" "/color"
I though both have to be on Miranda so I tried it with my daughter.
Same thing. We both see only color tags.
3) I installed on her and on my PC "EM_LAN_PROTO" to communicate through Lan.
It doesn't work.
I tried everything, firewall down, virusscan off.
Nothing, it doesn't work.
I don't see her computer name and she doesn't see my computer name.
I installed also another external Lan Chat software this morning, just
to check if Lan communication is possible, yes it works.
How can I resolve these problems?
My Miranda version:
Miranda NG v 0.95.2 build #9966 x64
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1) Please provide a Crash report (http://wiki.miranda-ng.org/index.php?title=Crash_reports).
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done
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done
And where can I find that crash report?
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Oeps.. How does this pastebin.com works?
Try to use the attatchment function of this forums.
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Crash report.
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This crash report is useless, please read the instructions above (http://wiki.miranda-ng.org/index.php?title=Crash_reports) how to create useful crash report.
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Nevermind - i re-created this crash - http://pastebin.com/s8j7PJqP
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Ok. I did it also. Please let me know if you need it.
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Crash is fixed, please try it:
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3) I installed on her and on my PC "EM_LAN_PROTO" to communicate through Lan.
I don't see her computer name and she doesn't see my computer name.
Where you don't see it? First you have to do "Find/Add contacts" and search for that computer there and then add it to your contact list. Does this work or not?
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Where you don't see it? First you have to do "Find/Add contacts" and search for that computer there and then add it to your contact list. Does this work or not?
Yes! :DRINK:
Never thought to add a computer as contact :)
Thought that a tcp/udp port was scanned on the lan :)
btw I regret that I don't see groupchat on EM_LAN_PROTO but I'm happy that it works.
Thanks.
Post Merge: 30 07 2014, 15:12:30
Crash is fixed, please try it:
Yes it works. :THUMBS UP:
Tnx.
Post Merge: 30 07 2014, 15:43:07
>> Crash is fixed, please try it:
I had 2 more crashes when I closed the MSN Chat window.
Then I realized that I had to install the msn driver also on the other pc.
Now, it seems to work fine.
I invited an user to the groupchat and could write with this user.
In my miranda there was a chat room contact "MSN Chat#1"
I could communicate with the other user in the chat room but did not see the user in the user panel (saw only my own msn name)
The other user received my groupchat messages clicking on my MSN name in Miranda (there was no group chat indication).
Is that the way as it has to be?
Btw if I invite 2 users to the groupchat, can the other users also chat between them in this Chat Room (visible to all 3 users)?
Post Merge: 30 07 2014, 15:46:27
A new crash:
see attachment for crash report
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A new crash:
see attachment for crash report
How to reproduce this crash?
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How to reproduce this crash?
The software crashed when I closed the group chat window.
Post Merge: 31 07 2014, 19:48:14
Sorry that I can't give you more info about the crash.
I tried EM_LAN_PROTO many times today. It is a great plugin.
I really like it. Hope that the owner will add Groupchat one day ;)
I noted also that "bold, italic, underline, strike-through as
also color formatting doesn't work on my pc and the one of my daughter.
I can only see the tags (outgoing and incoming messages for all my protocols).
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Doing a groupchat, closing the (groupchat) window caused another crash.
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I noted also that "bold, italic, underline, strike-through as
also color formatting doesn't work on my pc and the one of my daughter.
I can only see the tags (outgoing and incoming messages for all my protocols).
You must enable it in your messaging plugin options. Option "Enable BBCode support" or something like that.
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You must enable it in your messaging plugin options. Option "Enable BBCode support" or something like that.
There are so many options :)
The only one I found (and this one was already enabled) is
Options --> Message Sessions --> General ..> Allow BBCode formatting in outgoing messages.
I did a search for more options searching 'BBC' but it did not gave any (not even the one above).
I checked all other tabs and pages but can't find another one.
So still no formatting :)
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What I know is that IEView allows BBCode... though it might be over kill to use it only for that xD I'm using it mainly for theming reasons^^
Though I think TabSRMM itself should support it as well... but dunno xD
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There are so many options :)
https://www.dropbox.com/s/8bmsw8cyrc8fmwf/Screenshot%202014-08-03%2014.35.51.png
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https://www.dropbox.com/s/8bmsw8cyrc8fmwf/Screenshot%202014-08-03%2014.35.51.png
Thank you.
Yes that did it. :)
btw, why isn't formatted text the default?
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I noted that there is also a problem with EM_LAN_PROTO.
Normally at startup a Router gives every PC in the LAN a dynamic IP number.
if today computer 1 has the internal ip number:
192.168.1.23
en computer 2
192.168.1.24
and the day after computer 2 is the first computer to connect to the internet
the ip numbers will be the other way around:
computer 1:
192.168.1.24
computer 2:
192.168.1.23
EM_LAN_PROTO does not detect this change.
It wrongly thinks that the ip numbers are the same as the first day.
The problem is that if you send a file to the other pc,
you will receive it yourself.
If you send a message you send it to yourself.
(you'll see an outgoing and incoming message of the one you've sent)
Is there any change this bug will be corrected? :)
Is the creator still active?
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How it could be detemined that your computers has different IP addresses than before?
As a workaround, you can set static IP addresses for your computers or configure router to remember then and give them same IP address everytime...
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How it could be detemined that your computers has different IP addresses than before?
As a workaround, you can set static IP addresses for your computers or configure router to remember then and give them same IP address everytime...
Not so difficult, doing the same as I do:
Scan the lan (find/add new contacts) at every startup of miranda, the same as other lan messengers/chat programs do.
BTW MSN and other protocols do they not the same at log-in?
Yes I know that you can set a static IP address but I noted in the past that it gives problem with my adsl connection.
ps: do you know where EM_LAN_PROTO saves the IP info?
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what kind of router do you have^^ What the xD
A router should give every device the same IP again because it remembers the MAC... It should never reuse an old IP if possible... Looks like you're router isn't that good xD (this might also explain why a static IP doesn't work that well for you.. because the router might also be to dumb to see that you've assigned a IP manually...)
Though... static might still work... just use an IP that is at the end of or before the IP list or subnet the router might use to assign IPs.
So if your router normally assigns IPs from 23 to 40, use 192.168.1.22 or 192.168.1.41 ... or even use 192.168.1.40 so it's still in range (not that something outside causes a problem... normally shouldn't but who knows xD You could actually use 192.168.1.2 if your router is 192.168.1.1^^)
You could also check if your router is running the latest firmware.. (well if it's really a cheap one and his update progress doesn't have backups.. you maybe shouldn't update it for the risk to brick it xD My router yet again cannot be bricked that way..) and maybe it offers a way on his configuration pages to enable that it assigns the same IP to the same device everytime...
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Thank you White-Tiger, there are more reasons why a router can be considered good or not ;)
BTW It is a Zyxel router (with the latest firmware).
The problem with my adsl connection is not about the static ip addresses, it is about the static dns adresses. You cannot fix the ip addresses without fixing a dns ip.
That a router doesn't assign the same ip address to a device, yes that can be handicap but is DCHP not the default way of assigning lan ip addresses on routers?
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DHCP is supposed to be default... yes. But on most routers it's meant to assign devices the same IP each time they request one...
Though.. again, I don't know what your DNS problem is.. normally you would just put your router's/gateway's IP there.. and it'll use the DNS servers assigned by your ISP's DSLAM once connected..
An even when your router, for what ever reason, doesn't respond to DNS queries, you can still use OpenDNS or Google Public DNS (8.8.8.8, 8.8.4.4) and you're fine ;)
Regarding your Zyxel: what I've found implies that newer Zyxel router also use static DHCP...