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Zevel:
Hello,

I am a long-time Pidgin user considering moving to Miranda-NG.

I would like to hear from people that used both about the strong and weak points of each and the differences between them.

Some things I like about Pidgin:
* I can have buddies on multiple protocols and Pidgin will seamlessly switch to the one they are active on, in the same conversation and with shared history.
* I can easily synchronize the local chat history between computers (for example, when travelling with laptop) since the it is saved as HTML files,
* I can easily edit and synchronize the buddy list, chat-room aliases, and other settings (due to the configuration files being XML).  I wrote a Python script to parse the debug into and generate a Discord server/channel list since many Discord servers I'm on frequently change their channels.
* Has plug-ins for all the protocols I use, including Telegram and F-chat (which seem to be missing from Miranda).

Can I achieve those with Miranda?

Some things I dislike about Pidgin:
* Windows support is not very good.
* User support, especially for Windows users, is not very good.
* Has some weird bugs, which won't get fixed because development effort goes to version 3 which will take a while to be ready.
* Cannot pull server-side chat history for many (all?) protocols, probably due to the local chat history being saved as HTML (see above).
* The source code is not something I can play with, even if I wanted to.

Your comments are appreciated!

dartraiden:

--- Quote --- I can have buddies on multiple protocols and Pidgin will seamlessly switch to the one they are active on, in the same conversation and with shared history.
--- End quote ---
Miranda supports metacontacts.


--- Quote ---I can easily synchronize the local chat history between computers (for example, when travelling with laptop) since the it is saved as HTML files
--- End quote ---
Place Miranda database to Dropbox, OneDrive, etc


--- Quote ---I can easily edit and synchronize the buddy list, chat-room aliases, and other settings (due to the configuration files being XML).  I wrote a Python script to parse the debug into and generate a Discord server/channel list since many Discord servers I'm on frequently change their channels.
--- End quote ---
DbEditor plugin. There are no third party tools to edit the current format (MDBX). In the future, we are going to switch to SQLite.


--- Quote --- Has plug-ins for all the protocols I use, including Telegram and F-chat (which seem to be missing from Miranda).

--- End quote ---
All supported protocols are listed on https://www.miranda-ng.org


--- Quote ---* Windows support is not very good.
* User support, especially for Windows users, is not very good.
--- End quote ---
Miranda is Windows-only app, so Windows support is perfect.


--- Quote --- Has some weird bugs, which won't get fixed because development effort goes to version 3 which will take a while to be ready.
--- End quote ---
Miranda currently has 1-2 developers and 388 opened bugs.


--- Quote --- Cannot pull server-side chat history for many (all?) protocols, probably due to the local chat history being saved as HTML (see above).
--- End quote ---
Some our protocols (ICQ, XMPP) already has server-side chat history support. Facebook is coming.


--- Quote ---The source code is not something I can play with, even if I wanted to.
--- End quote ---
Pull requests are welcome

ghazan:

--- Quote from: Zevel on 02 09 2020, 14:28:49 ---* I can have buddies on multiple protocols and Pidgin will seamlessly switch to the one they are active on, in the same conversation and with shared history.
--- End quote ---
Yes, in Miranda they are called "meta-contacts", you can gather as many sub-contacts from any protocols into one metacontact with common history.


--- Quote from: Zevel on 02 09 2020, 14:28:49 ---* I can easily synchronize the local chat history between computers (for example, when travelling with laptop) since the it is saved as HTML files
--- End quote ---
Miranda is completely portable, you can sync the only .dat file that contains all settings, contacts & messages.


--- Quote from: Zevel on 02 09 2020, 14:28:49 ---* I can easily edit and synchronize the buddy list, chat-room aliases, and other settings (due to the configuration files being XML).  I wrote a Python script to parse the debug into and generate a Discord server/channel list since many Discord servers I'm on frequently change their channels.
--- End quote ---
in Miranda you need to study Lua to write scripts :-)


--- Quote from: Zevel on 02 09 2020, 14:28:49 ---* Has plug-ins for all the protocols I use, including Telegram and F-chat (which seem to be missing from Miranda).
--- End quote ---
We have 24 protocols, but don't have Telegram, you can use XMPP transports to read/write messages


--- Quote from: Zevel on 02 09 2020, 14:28:49 ---* Windows support is not very good.
--- End quote ---
Miranda is a native Windows application (no Qt stuff etc).


--- Quote from: Zevel on 02 09 2020, 14:28:49 ---* Has some weird bugs, which won't get fixed because development effort goes to version 3 which will take a while to be ready.
--- End quote ---
Any application has bugs, but we actively fight them :)


--- Quote from: Zevel on 02 09 2020, 14:28:49 ---* Cannot pull server-side chat history for many (all?) protocols, probably due to the local chat history being saved as HTML (see above).
--- End quote ---
Miranda provides full server-side support for any protocol that supports it.


--- Quote from: Zevel on 02 09 2020, 14:28:49 ---* The source code is not something I can play with, even if I wanted to.
--- End quote ---
Miranda has 100% opened source code, but you don't have to play with it, people usually prefer the binary distribution via Plugin Updater.

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