ICQ and unofficial messengers?

[ellick]

SpinalBlood,
what about timers at Options - Network - <ICQ> - Advanced?
maybe you set too large values?

I'm seeing the same thing. I only have a single contact on ICQ anymore but since the most recent update, he shows as online all the time.  Miranda was doing this for a while a few months back but the update before the latest one fixed it.  Now it's doing it again so it's something in Miranda.  We both use  v0.96.4 Build #26377

My Timeouts are also 0.  I tried changing it but it didnt make any difference.

[ellick]

SpinalBlood,
what about timers at Options - Network - <ICQ> - Advanced?
maybe you set too large values?

I'm seeing the same behavior. I only have one icq contact anymore and the latest update shows him always online.   The ICQ protocol updated on Dec, 8, 2023 and the file shows it was modified on that date.  I copied the icq.dll file from a backup, modidied Nov. 20, 2023 and he now no longer shows online unless he actually is.
Both files show version 0.96.4.1  though the one modified on Dec 8 is 122kb and the one on Nov 20 is 118kb.

I saw this same always-online behavior for weeks before the Nov 20 file so I figured it was a known issue and that fixed it.  Now it's back with the latest dll.

[ellick]

Anything going on with this icq problem?  I still see my contact as always online. I tried deleting him and re-added the contact when he messaged me.  He still shows up as online all the time even when he's not.

[-SM-]

Anything going on with this icq problem?

This is a server-side problem. At this time server moves contact to offline not on closing of the session nor real setting of "offline" status, but on inactivity (protocol-physical, not user-level) for some minutes. Protocol-based changes of my status are fully ignored by the server.  Official web client shows the same buggy behavior - contact shows "online" status for some minutes after closing of tab with it.

[ellick]

This is a server-side problem. At this time server moves contact to offline not on closing of the session nor real setting of "offline" status, but on inactivity (protocol-physical, not user-level) for some minutes. Protocol-based changes of my status are fully ignored by the server.  Official web client shows the same buggy behavior - contact shows "online" status for some minutes after closing of tab with it.

Would that be causing ICQ to show users online all the time though?  This says for some minutes after closing but my contact never goes offline now even when he hasn't been on in days.   The previous icq.dll file from the current one was working normally.

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never goes offline now even when he hasn't been on in days.

Hmm... I've never seen anything like this with a current dll (from a development version). On the contrary i see some "always-online" contacts in an official client (some old contacts who were last time online very-very long time ago), but these contacts are shown correctly offline in Miranda. Netlog can help solve this problem if You are using development version.

[ellick]

Hmm... I've never seen anything like this with a current dll (from a development version). On the contrary i see some "always-online" contacts in an official client (some old contacts who were last time online very-very long time ago), but these contacts are shown correctly offline in Miranda. Netlog can help solve this problem if You are using development version.

I downloaded the developers version and installed it clean just to see if it was something in my miranda install but it did the same thing. I then went to icq's website and logged in and saw my contact was showing online there too.  Sheesh!  They can't even fix teir own progam.  I thought maybe he was leaving a phone or something turned on but he said no.

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I thought maybe he was leaving a phone or something turned on but he said no.

Maybe this account was hacked and is used (or monitored) by someone else.

[dartraiden]

By the way, I saw such a case: one of our users complained that outgoing messages appeared in Miranda that he did not send. It turned out that the password to his account was guessed/stolen, and someone else started using the account in parallel with the real owner.

You can go to https://icq.com/login/en, login and change your password. This will kill all active sessions.

[ellick]

I will tell him and suggest he change his password. He also uses Miranda.

[ellick]

This ICQ problem still has me stumped.  It may just be ICQ itself but does anyone have an idea why the icq.dll file from November seems to work in showing the contact state correctly, on or offline?  while updated ones do not?

I copied the icq.dll file from a backup, modidied Nov. 20, 2023, and he now no longer shows online unless he actually is. An updated version was madified and downloaded on Dec 8, 2023.  Both files show version 0.96.4.1  though the one modified on Dec 8 is 122kb and the one on Nov 20 is 118kb.

[dartraiden]

Let's take a look at netlog

Take the protocol offline, enable netlog, bring the protocol online.

[dartraiden]

ICQ will be closed at June 26
https://tass.ru/ekonomika/20897975

[iX]

WTF?? ICQ vsjo??     

What is recommended protocol instead? (For PC-only usage.)

[netspider1]

OMG, ICQ is closing, I met my wife in 1997 and since than we use ICQ (her number is short 8 digit), I keep the 20+ years history in Miranda since then, from the time we were flirting, married, rise kids, still chat from work using Miranda ICQ on my PC and phone. Using Miranda on PC since 90s, and phone later on. Also tried Skype and TOX in Miranda but still ICQ is my life, and my friend and family. I and my wife are the only one left refusing to use social networks etc. 20+ years we had healthy wonderful life with Miranda and ICQ and never had need for social network.My kids are growing and I was about to get ICQ for them to chat when they are on school. Entire my life I used ICQ in many countries, north hemisphere, south hemisphere, different continents. So sad is end now... I will switch on another protocol in my Miranda, probably TOX or something else....