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Offline wor123Topic starter

Re: Miranda NG, don't logins at Windows startup
« Reply #15 on: 20 01 2015, 10:19:23 »
I downloaded StartupStatus, and setted my protocols to connected. I hope that this will solve the problem.
Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 32bit
Miranda NG v0.95.10.3 32bit
 

Offline AnrDaemon

Re: Miranda NG, don't logins at Windows startup
« Reply #16 on: 20 01 2015, 11:29:09 »
ahaha)))
for what you write about keepstatus here?
For you to stop putting your words into my mouth. And to stop arguing about things you don't know.

for protocol connection on startup you should use StartupStatus plugin or use global status. You don't know how miranda work...
It does not do that. Startupstatus does exactly that.

Let's take this to real ground.
Fresh downloaded Miranda from official site (portable 32-bit installation).
VersionInfo
CPU:  Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-3550 CPU @ 3.30GHz [x86 Family 6 Model 58 Stepping 9] [DEP Enabled]
Installed RAM: 2048 MBytes
Operating System: Microsoft Windows XP Professional Service Pack 3 (build 2600)
Internet Explorer: 8.0.6001.18702 (build 86001)
Administrator privileges: Yes
OS Languages: (UI | Locale (User/System)) : Russian/Russian | Russian/Russian
Free disk space on Miranda partition: 1679 MBytes

Miranda NG Version: 0.95.3 build #11706
Build time: 1 Jan 2015 17:15:52
Profile: C:\Documents and Settings\anrdaemon\Мои документы\miranda-ng-v0.95.3\Profiles\Daemon\Daemon.dat
Profile size: 131072 Bytes
Profile creation date: 20 Jan 2015 14:56:01
Language pack: No language pack installed
Service Mode: No

Active Plugins (12):
  AdvaImg.dll v.0.11.0.1 [1 Jan 2015 17:08:36] - Miranda image services
  AVS.dll v.0.95.3.4 [1 Jan 2015 17:07:38] - Avatar service
  CrashDumper.dll v.0.0.5.2 [1 Jan 2015 17:11:16] - Crash dumper
  DbChecker.dll v.0.95.3.1 [1 Jan 2015 17:11:32] - Database checker
  Dbx_mmap.dll v.0.95.3.1 [1 Jan 2015 17:07:43] - Miranda NG mmap database driver
  ICQ.dll v.0.11.2.6 [1 Jan 2015 17:08:23] - IcqOscarJ protocol
  Import.dll v.0.95.3.4 [1 Jan 2015 17:07:38] - Import contacts and messages
  IRC.dll v.0.11.0.2 [1 Jan 2015 17:08:13] - IRC protocol
  Jabber.dll v.0.11.0.4 [1 Jan 2015 17:08:32] - Jabber protocol
  PluginUpdater.dll v.0.1.2.4 [1 Jan 2015 17:11:48] - Plugin updater
  TabSRMM.dll v.3.4.0.7 [1 Jan 2015 17:07:55] - TabSRMM
  TopToolBar.dll v.0.8.0.4 [1 Jan 2015 17:10:14] - TopToolBar

Protocols and Accounts:
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ICQ                      0 - Enabled 0 - Disabled  Loaded
IRC                      0 - Enabled 0 - Disabled  Loaded
JABBER                   1 - Enabled 0 - Disabled  Loaded
MetaContacts             1 - Enabled 0 - Disabled  Loaded

Icon Packs:
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 Proto_AIM.dll [1 Jan 2015 17:10:17]
 Proto_Facebook.dll [1 Jan 2015 17:10:15]
 Proto_GG.dll [1 Jan 2015 17:10:17]
 Proto_ICQ.dll [1 Jan 2015 17:10:18]
 Proto_IRC.dll [1 Jan 2015 17:10:18]
 Proto_Jabber.dll [1 Jan 2015 17:10:19]
 Proto_MetaContacts.dll [1 Jan 2015 17:14:59]
 Proto_MSN.dll [1 Jan 2015 17:10:19]
 Proto_Yahoo.dll [1 Jan 2015 17:10:21]
 TabSRMM_icons.dll [1 Jan 2015 17:12:05]
 Toolbar_icons.dll [1 Jan 2015 17:10:22]
 xStatus_ICQ.dll [1 Jan 2015 17:08:36]
 xStatus_Jabber.dll [1 Jan 2015 17:08:37]

Start, configure one protocol, set global status to N/A through system tray icon.
Close, open - status - N/A.

Disconnect the cable. Miranda goes offline. Close Miranda.

Connect the cable. Start Miranda. Status? You guess. N/A.

Set protocol status to Online. Exit - start - status - N/A. Predictable, if you think about it for a moment. We didn't change global status.

Let's add KeepStatus to the mix.

VersionInfo
CPU:  Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-3550 CPU @ 3.30GHz [x86 Family 6 Model 58 Stepping 9] [DEP Enabled]
Installed RAM: 2048 MBytes
Operating System: Microsoft Windows XP Professional Service Pack 3 (build 2600)
Internet Explorer: 8.0.6001.18702 (build 86001)
Administrator privileges: Yes
OS Languages: (UI | Locale (User/System)) : Russian/Russian | Russian/Russian
Free disk space on Miranda partition: 1679 MBytes

Miranda NG Version: 0.95.3 build #11706
Build time: 1 Jan 2015 17:15:52
Profile: C:\Documents and Settings\anrdaemon\Мои документы\miranda-ng-v0.95.3\Profiles\Daemon\Daemon.dat
Profile size: 131072 Bytes
Profile creation date: 20 Jan 2015 14:56:01
Language pack: No language pack installed
Service Mode: No

Active Plugins (13):
  AdvaImg.dll v.0.11.0.1 [1 Jan 2015 17:08:36] - Miranda image services
  AVS.dll v.0.95.3.4 [1 Jan 2015 17:07:38] - Avatar service
  CrashDumper.dll v.0.0.5.2 [1 Jan 2015 17:11:16] - Crash dumper
  DbChecker.dll v.0.95.3.1 [1 Jan 2015 17:11:32] - Database checker
  Dbx_mmap.dll v.0.95.3.1 [1 Jan 2015 17:07:43] - Miranda NG mmap database driver
  ICQ.dll v.0.11.2.6 [1 Jan 2015 17:08:23] - IcqOscarJ protocol
  Import.dll v.0.95.3.4 [1 Jan 2015 17:07:38] - Import contacts and messages
  IRC.dll v.0.11.0.2 [1 Jan 2015 17:08:13] - IRC protocol
  Jabber.dll v.0.11.0.4 [1 Jan 2015 17:08:32] - Jabber protocol
  KeepStatus.dll v.0.9.0.2 [1 Jan 2015 15:09:26] - Keep status
  PluginUpdater.dll v.0.1.2.4 [1 Jan 2015 17:11:48] - Plugin updater
  TabSRMM.dll v.3.4.0.7 [1 Jan 2015 17:07:55] - TabSRMM
  TopToolBar.dll v.0.8.0.4 [1 Jan 2015 17:10:14] - TopToolBar

Protocols and Accounts:
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ICQ                      0 - Enabled 0 - Disabled  Loaded
IRC                      0 - Enabled 0 - Disabled  Loaded
JABBER                   1 - Enabled 0 - Disabled  Loaded
MetaContacts             1 - Enabled 0 - Disabled  Loaded

Icon Packs:
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 Proto_AIM.dll [1 Jan 2015 17:10:17]
 Proto_Facebook.dll [1 Jan 2015 17:10:15]
 Proto_GG.dll [1 Jan 2015 17:10:17]
 Proto_ICQ.dll [1 Jan 2015 17:10:18]
 Proto_IRC.dll [1 Jan 2015 17:10:18]
 Proto_Jabber.dll [1 Jan 2015 17:10:19]
 Proto_MetaContacts.dll [1 Jan 2015 17:14:59]
 Proto_MSN.dll [1 Jan 2015 17:10:19]
 Proto_Yahoo.dll [1 Jan 2015 17:10:21]
 TabSRMM_icons.dll [1 Jan 2015 17:12:05]
 Toolbar_icons.dll [1 Jan 2015 17:10:22]
 xStatus_ICQ.dll [1 Jan 2015 17:08:36]
 xStatus_Jabber.dll [1 Jan 2015 17:08:37]

Basic setup to enable it (it is not enabled by default) - values are very low for testing purposes, I do not recommend doing it for production setups:
  • Check connection; 0 retry; 10 delay

Select the account you have configured.
Dialup functions disabled.
Advanced setup:
All disabled except
  • Set account to offline before connection attempt.


Disconnect cable. Miranda goes offline. Connect cable. After 15-20 sec, Miranda spring online with the same N/A status.

Change protocol status to online. Disconnect cable. Miranda goes offline. Connect cable. After 15-20 sec, Miranda spring online with Online both global and protocol statuses.
I didn't touch the global status. I think this a bug in KeepStatus protocol, that I didn't find earlier, since I hardly ever use separate account statuses. But this is debatable in case of a single protocol. Should Miranda reflect the status of its only configured protocol in global status?
« Last Edit: 20 01 2015, 11:33:30 by AnrDaemon »
 

Offline watcher

Re: Miranda NG, don't logins at Windows startup
« Reply #17 on: 20 01 2015, 14:10:25 »
AnrDaemon, question is - why are you suggesting keepstatus to people that want auto-login on miranda startup? It is totally wrong.
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Offline watcher

Re: Miranda NG, don't logins at Windows startup
« Reply #18 on: 20 01 2015, 15:18:36 »
KeepStatus is for reconnecting accounts, StartupStatus is for connecting accounts on Miranda start. For bugs there is a bug tracker. This topic is closed.
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Offline Robyer

Re: Miranda NG, don't logins at Windows startup
« Reply #19 on: 21 01 2015, 04:57:00 »
AnrDaemon, question is - why are you suggesting keepstatus to people that want auto-login on miranda startup? It is totally wrong.
I actually understood him. You need no "StartupStatus" to make your Miranda connect at startup. Miranda does that automatically in a way that when you set global status before exitting, Miranda will set this last used global status automatically at next start.

I'm not sure about this particular user who started this thread, but common problem is this:
 a) When your Miranda is started at windows startup, occasionally you may not have internet connection yet (Miranda started too quickly before system started connecting), so Miranda automatically setting last status will fail immediatelly because no internet connection. And it won't try to connect again when you have internet connection back.
 b) Similar thing is when hibernating your computer. Miranda sometimes reconnect automatically after waking up computer from hibernation and sometimes doesn't - I think it's same problem as (a).

As a result, you can use StartupStatus for this problem, BUT you need to start x seconds delay so you can except you'll have internet at that moment. But it's not correct solution for my issue above.
Better solution is KeepStatus which doesn't set Miranda status at startup, BUT it does Miranda itself (as stated above) so in case of failing (internet not available) KeepStatus just tries again and again after few seconds, which precisely solve this problem :-)

Conclusion: You both are right. Watcher responded exactly to OP's problem, but AnrDaemon correctly presented different solution from different point of view (which require correct use of global status, which user wasn't aware of or didn't worked for him in first place).
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