Administrator privilages needed for portable Miranda NG.

[yoGhurt]

Hi,
From a while, i found that Miranda wants administator privilages. Even it's portable version installed in main folder on C: drive.
Anyone had problem with that? Partly solution for this is changing privilages in properties, but it's not best solution for this to do that after every core update or sth.

[watcher]

Even it's portable version installed in main folder on C: drive.

It shouldn't behave like this. Start from posting your VersionInfo.

[watcher]

Can it be PluginUpdater? When does it ask for administator privilages? On every start, on updates check?

[yoGhurt]

Oh, right, i forgot about VI because it was just-installed stable 0.95.2 (i also tried on lastest alpha, same thing), anyway, here's VI :

VersionInfo

CPU: AMD Turion(tm) II Neo N54L Dual-Core Processor [AMD64 Family 16 Model 6 Stepping 3] [DEP enabled] [2 CPUs]
Installed RAM: 1920 MBytes
Operating System: Microsoft Windows Server 2012 R2 Essentials Edition, 64-bit  (build 9600)
Shell: explorer.exe
Internet Explorer: 9.11.9600.17278 (build 99600)
Administrator privileges: No
OS Languages: (UI | Locale (User/System)) : Polish/Polish | Polish/Polish
Free disk space on Miranda partition: 91154 MBytes

Miranda path: C:\Miranda NG
Miranda NG version: 0.95.2 build #9966 x64
Build time: 2 Aug 2014 15:38:45
Profile path: C:\Miranda NG\Profiles\Test\Test.dat
Profile size: 64,00 KBytes
Profile creation date: 11 Oct 2014 20:17:37
Language pack: Polish (PL) [0415]
Service Mode: No

Active Plugins (18):
  AdvaImg.dll v.0.11.0.1 [2 Aug 2014 15:31:27] - Miranda image services
  AIM.dll v.0.11.0.1 [2 Aug 2014 15:30:43] - AIM protocol
  AVS.dll v.0.95.2.2 [2 Aug 2014 15:30:19] - Avatar service
  Clist_modern.dll v.0.9.1.1 [2 Aug 2014 15:33:31] - Modern contact list
  DbChecker.dll v.0.95.0.3 [2 Aug 2014 15:34:33] - Database checker
  Dbx_mmap.dll v.0.95.1.3 [2 Aug 2014 15:30:21] - Miranda NG mmap database driver
  Facebook.dll v.0.2.9.1 [27 Aug 2014 15:29:12] - Facebook RM
  GG.dll v.0.11.0.3 [2 Aug 2014 15:30:50] - Gadu-Gadu protocol
  ICQ.dll v.0.11.2.5 [2 Aug 2014 15:31:05] - IcqOscarJ protocol
  Import.dll v.0.11.0.1 [2 Aug 2014 15:30:19] - Import contacts and messages
  IRC.dll v.0.11.0.2 [2 Aug 2014 15:30:51] - IRC protocol
  Jabber.dll v.0.11.0.4 [2 Aug 2014 15:31:16] - Jabber protocol
  MSN.dll v.0.11.0.2 [2 Aug 2014 15:31:21] - MSN protocol
  PluginUpdater.dll v.0.1.2.2 [2 Aug 2014 15:34:44] - Plugin updater
  TabSRMM.dll v.3.3.1.7 [2 Aug 2014 15:30:40] - TabSRMM
  TopToolBar.dll v.0.8.0.3 [2 Aug 2014 15:33:11] - TopToolBar
  VersionInfo.dll v.1.5.0.3 [2 Aug 2014 16:34:24] - Version information
  Yahoo.dll v.0.11.0.1 [2 Aug 2014 15:30:58] - Yahoo protocol

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Miranda wants admin privilages on every start, PluginUpdater wasn't a problem.

I had same problem on my another PC with Windows 8, lastest alpha and non-portable mode, but after what you said i see it's possible to happen.

[watcher]

Try starting miranda not from system drive. Try drive D: Sometimes UAC doesn't like system drive to be used.

[Wishmaster]

yoGhurt, Can you check if the prompt is for miranda64.exe or pu_stup.exe? Last ones belongs to pluginUpdater.

[yoGhurt]

Tried from different drive but sadly, same thing.

Also, I think i wrote topic in wrong way. Miranda is not asking for admin privilages - program doesn't want to start at all if i not press "run as admin".

[Wishmaster]

Tried from different drive but sadly, same thing.

Also, I think i wrote topic in wrong way. Miranda is not asking for admin privilages - program doesn't want to start at all if i not press "run as admin".

Yes, because it tries to create a profile file and UAC doesn't allow it. Not a Miranda issue. The only way to work with UAC is to create profile directory in %APPDATA% via mirandaboot.ini. That's why you shouldn't use portable version with UAC enabled. You should only use portable version on an USB drive.

[watcher]

Yes, because it tries to create a profile file and UAC doesn't allow it. Not a Miranda issue. The only way to work with UAC is to create profile directory in %APPDATA% via mirandaboot.ini. That's why you shouldn't use portable version with UAC enabled. You should only use portable version on an USB drive.

On a non-system drive? UAC shouldn't block writing to profile or block program in any way. If it was installed in C:\Program Files, than yes - profile in %APPDATA% is the only answer. I tried portable Miranda on non-system drive with UAC enabled, worked just fine. The only thing is - I've never tried it as unprivileged user, only as administrator.

[yoGhurt]

The only way to work with UAC is to create profile directory in %APPDATA% via mirandaboot.ini.

That would explain, but for normal instalation. For portable instalation it shouldn't happen at all because Miranda keeps profile in Miranda directory.

Watcher, yup, i tried this as standard user, so you should try to get prove of this.

[watcher]

I had to create standard user to check it out, well...

yoGhurt, portable installation with profile inside Miranda's folder works perfectly well running as standard user with UAC enabled when placed outside of Program files (C:\ - fine, D:\ - fine).

Can't confirm your statement.

[skitungen]

Just to but in for a shorty... UAC is crap and IMHO it should never be on if you have adequate protection (i.e. antivirus/firewall, non microsoft products that is).

[yoGhurt]

watcher, ok, could you check what security properties you've got in Miranda NG folder when you put it in main directory of C: or D: ? That would explain difference between your and my test, because of list of users that have privilages to this folder.  I've got only system user, owner, administrator group and user group - it should be also domain user group because my users were added to this group.
Also i could confirm that portable version works in some situations, because i tried this just seconds ago on different PC. But i'm still not completely sure about this problem. I need to check this.

[watcher]

yoGhurt,

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[Wishmaster]

Just to but in for a shorty... UAC is crap and IMHO it should never be on if you have adequate protection (i.e. antivirus/firewall, non microsoft products that is).

No, UAC is a very useful protection against malware. Miranda NG also works perfectly with it if you write your profile to AppData directories.