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Forum for English speaking Miranda NG users => Bug reports => Topic started by: pepinlebref on 22 12 2014, 09:12:13

Title: Problem with Skype
Post by: pepinlebref on 22 12 2014, 09:12:13
Hi there,
During some days I have problem with Skype:
- during first 'go online', the skype icon 'turns' then remains in offline status while it is orrectly online on Skype application
- I do a second 'go online', then skype icon is set correctly in online status
- when I send a message to a skype contact, it falls in timeout while it is correctly sent on skype (and correctly received by the remote contact)
- when this contact sends a message to me, I receive it correctly in my message window
Anything to double check?
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Title: Re: Problem with Skype
Post by: Dimsok on 22 12 2014, 09:28:06
That't the known probmel with skype api. Not only with miranda. For example when i use clownfish, translated messages just stuck with delievering. I have another problem - everytime when start miranda with skype. skype asks wether allow using with miranda or no, when i did it many times before
Title: Re: Problem with Skype
Post by: Wishmaster on 22 12 2014, 18:32:38
That't the known probmel with skype api. Not only with miranda. For example when i use clownfish, translated messages just stuck with delievering. I have another problem - everytime when start miranda with skype. skype asks wether allow using with miranda or no, when i did it many times before
Does it also happen with the same build of Miranda NG?
Skype seems to check its hash.
Title: Re: Problem with Skype
Post by: pepinlebref on 08 01 2015, 07:25:56
Hi there,
Any news on this?
I can't use anymore Skype through Miranda these days, any message sent fail in timeout while I can see the same message correctly sent on Skype interface.
However, I can see answers arriving in Miranda.
Title: Re: Problem with Skype
Post by: Wishmaster on 08 01 2015, 10:21:19
Hi there,
Any news on this?
I can't use anymore Skype through Miranda these days, any message sent fail in timeout while I can see the same message correctly sent on Skype interface.
However, I can see answers arriving in Miranda.
Yes its bug in Skype API, Ill add an option to ignore sent notification, but basically that API is buggy.
Title: Re: Problem with Skype
Post by: pepinlebref on 08 01 2015, 10:45:42
OK it's buggy, but it was working more or less okay 'before'.
Could it be linked in relation with metacontact feature? or is it linked with the new Skype version (6.22.0.107)?

More details on my issues:
- when going online, Skype app is going properly online but Miranda icon remains offline. I need to go online again to see miranda online with skype
- some online contact in Skype app are not online in Miranda, it seems to be metacontacts
- when sending a message to a skype metacontact, I can see the message sent in skype app, but always falling in timeout in the message window (i'm using Scriver)
- as the previous sent message always falling in timeout, it never appears in Message view nor in history
- when this skype metacontact is sending a message to me, it appears correctly in miranda
- from what I see in my history, the last time I could send message OK on skype was in mid December

Hope this helps...
Title: Re: Problem with Skype
Post by: Wishmaster on 08 01 2015, 10:50:21
Yes, it's related to Skype 6.22.0.107. Messages sent confirmations are not working in that version. So Miranda think it failed. Contact are also not always shown as online.

EDIT: Okay, Now the acks are disabled by default, this fixes problems with sending messages
Title: Re: Problem with Skype
Post by: blokva on 10 01 2015, 06:12:09
Very interesting thing with the last version (56).
1. I send a message. It appears in Skype window, but doesn't in MirandaNG!
2. Immediately after first I send next message! And the first message appears in MirandaNG!!!!
Title: Re: Problem with Skype
Post by: Wishmaster on 10 01 2015, 14:36:52
Very interesting thing with the last version (56).
1. I send a message. It appears in Skype window, but doesn't in MirandaNG!
2. Immediately after first I send next message! And the first message appears in MirandaNG!!!!

Should be fixed in next build, please test
Title: Re: Problem with Skype
Post by: WarmBooter on 17 01 2015, 12:48:11
Where do I get this next build?

Right now, all the messages I send from Miranda-NG goes to skype, but are not shown in Miranda-NG chat window (and after sometime I get a "message failed" error in NG).
Title: Re: Problem with Skype
Post by: Wishmaster on 17 01 2015, 13:41:53
Where do I get this next build?

Right now, all the messages I send from Miranda-NG goes to skype, but are not shown in Miranda-NG chat window (and after sometime I get a "message failed" error in NG).
You have to use the development builds of Miranda NG.

In options->Services->PluginUpdater, select "development version"

If you use it, please post again and confirm that it is fixed.
Title: Re: Problem with Skype
Post by: WarmBooter on 18 01 2015, 00:26:35
You have to use the development builds of Miranda NG.

In options->Services->PluginUpdater, select "development version"

If you use it, please post again and confirm that it is fixed.

Problem still happens, at last for me :(
Skype version: 7.0.60.102
Title: Re: Problem with Skype
Post by: blokva on 18 01 2015, 06:28:15
Problem still happens, at last for me :(
For me too
Title: Re: Problem with Skype
Post by: Wishmaster on 18 01 2015, 08:56:36
Are you sure you have the newest SkypeClassic from Miranda NG development builds?
Also make sure that in the options dialog, Advanced tab, the option "Do not wait for message SENT acknowledgement (for some buggy Skype versions >6)" is checked (it should be by default though)
Title: Re: Problem with Skype
Post by: WarmBooter on 18 01 2015, 13:15:15
Are you sure you have the newest SkypeClassic from Miranda NG development builds?
Also make sure that in the options dialog, Advanced tab, the option "Do not wait for message SENT acknowledgement (for some buggy Skype versions >6)" is checked (it should be by default though)

Yes, 0.0.0.56 (updates checking shows no newer version) and the option is checked.

Any more ideas?
Title: Re: Problem with Skype
Post by: Wishmaster on 19 01 2015, 11:25:15
Yes, 0.0.0.56 (updates checking shows no newer version) and the option is checked.

Any more ideas?
Should be finally fixed with the next build :) (#11877 or newer)
Title: Re: Problem with Skype
Post by: WarmBooter on 19 01 2015, 12:02:50
I just downloaded the current release from the site, and problem is still happening :(
Title: Re: Problem with Skype
Post by: Wishmaster on 19 01 2015, 12:12:07
I just downloaded the current release from the site, and problem is still happening :(
Like I said, you need build #11877 or newer (see Help->About), it's not yet released. Just wait until PluginUpdater finds an update for SkypeClassic and try again.
Development builds are compiled and uploaded once a day.
Title: Re: Problem with Skype
Post by: WarmBooter on 19 01 2015, 13:46:36
Ok, I saw the date of the dll being 19/Jan, so I thought it was already updated. I'll wait until tomorrow and force an updates checking.
Title: Re: Problem with Skype
Post by: blokva on 19 01 2015, 17:43:39
Wishmaster,
Yes
Yes
Title: Re: Problem with Skype
Post by: WarmBooter on 20 01 2015, 11:42:41
Problem is fixed now.

The only annoying problem that still happens is that several messages received in Skype are not shown in Miranda. Not sure if this can be fixed, since MS seems to be killing the API.
Title: Re: Problem with Skype
Post by: pepinlebref on 20 01 2015, 12:56:56
On my side, the very first connection is still not updated on M-NG: I have to connect twice to be really online on skype (see my first message on this thread)
Anyway, thanks for fixing the message log timeout
Title: Re: Problem with Skype
Post by: WarmBooter on 20 01 2015, 12:58:53
Maybe one option to stop depending on the deprecated (and bugged) API is to do something like this:

http://eion.robbmob.com/blog/2014/11/30/using-the-new-skype-for-web/
Title: Re: Problem with Skype
Post by: Wishmaster on 20 01 2015, 13:38:15
Maybe one option to stop depending on the deprecated (and bugged) API is to do something like this:

http://eion.robbmob.com/blog/2014/11/30/using-the-new-skype-for-web/
Maybe. leecher wants to port it to Miranda IM, so we can pick it up. It is just a lot of work to do.
The only annoying problem that still happens is that several messages received in Skype are not shown in Miranda. Not sure if this can be fixed, since MS seems to be killing the API.
I know, this cannot be fixed, you have to open up Skype.
Title: Re: Problem with Skype
Post by: WarmBooter on 20 01 2015, 13:55:23
I know, this cannot be fixed, you have to open up Skype.

Yep, and it sucks. The major reason I always loved to use Miranda with Skype plugin was because History++ is so much better than "native" Skype when searching old chats, etc. But now that the received messages fails to appear in Miranda, the history in Miranda lacks a lot of information and cannot be trusted anymore :(
Title: Re: Problem with Skype
Post by: blokva on 21 01 2015, 07:03:09
Wishmaster,
WOW grand respect!
now it works and I'll test some more!
Title: Re: Problem with Skype
Post by: WarmBooter on 12 03 2015, 18:37:01
Starting from a few days ago (maybe after I updated Skype to its latest version), most of the times when I try to post a message to Skype using Miranda interface, it crashes the Skype app.
Title: Re: Problem with Skype
Post by: pepinlebref on 12 03 2015, 19:41:48
Same here...
Title: Re: Problem with Skype
Post by: pepinlebref on 24 03 2015, 12:16:51
Any investigation ongoing on the "skype crash" issue?

Today, I have to disable skype from Miranda :((
Title: Re: Problem with Skype
Post by: WarmBooter on 24 03 2015, 14:15:51
I also had to disable Skype in Miranda, and being honest, since 99% of my contacts are from Skype, I don't even open Miranda daily anymore :-((

That's a pitty.

Carlos
Title: Re: Problem with Skype
Post by: Wishmaster on 24 03 2015, 16:35:03
Well, too bad. Since this is due to an update of the Skype application and the skype app crashes itsself, it most likely cannot be fixed. In fact, I'm surprised that the plugin works at all. It's as good as dead.

We are working on a plugin for Skype Web. Wait until it is ready.:)
Title: Re: Problem with Skype
Post by: blokva on 25 03 2015, 07:36:36
now it works and I'll test some more!
After last updating Scype to version 7.0.0.102 everything is bad.
My messages from Miranda are shown in Skype window, but in Miranda I get an error message about sending message!
Title: Re: Problem with Skype
Post by: WarmBooter on 25 03 2015, 13:22:08
We are working on a plugin for Skype Web. Wait until it is ready.:)

That's a good news! Let me know when I can test it.
Title: Re: Problem with Skype
Post by: blokva on 08 04 2015, 12:42:48
After last update to version 7.2.0.103  any send message in MNG window crashes Skype!
But ALL messages from Skype window appear in MNG window!
Title: Re: Problem with Skype
Post by: Wishmaster on 08 04 2015, 12:55:50
After last update to version 7.2.0.103  any send message in MNG window crashes Skype! But ALL messages from Skype window appear in MNG window!
Yes, like I said in my last post...