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Forum for English speaking Miranda NG users => Support/Help => Topic started by: Octopuss on 01 01 2014, 10:41:12

Title: Next version question
Post by: Octopuss on 01 01 2014, 10:41:12
I feel slightly bad for asking this, because I know how much devs hate it, but... Do you guys have any ROUGH estimate when next major version (0.95 or?) could be released?
I decided to finally switch from the original Miranda, because despite only using ICQ and very very few plugins, the program is completely on its arse, and noticeably bugged.
Title: Re: Next version question
Post by: watcher on 01 01 2014, 11:00:08
NG is more bugged than IM? In what ways?

Post Merge: 31 12 2013, 19:12:23
We don't hate the question - we simply don't know, we haven't finished 0.94 yet, although it's almost finished, but if you are asking about stable 0.95 - could take months, 0.94 was cooking for 6 month at least. Main problem is - what was working in Miranda IM - only god knows whн it was working at all - code-wise, it's just scary how many clutches were and still are there - when you make a massive global change (fix those clutches), then even more than with most programs  - something breaks (because of the abundant amateur approach to coding in Miranda IM plugins) . We need more and more reports about what is wrong, and most important - steps to repeat it.

Post Merge: 31 12 2013, 21:12:31
We made massive changes to the code (most of them absolutely unseen to user's eye, cause they internal) - Miranda IM was Unicode only on the paper, it had ANSI stuff all over it - all of it had to be rewritten and even if it seems not important now - it will have undoubted benefits in a near future, starting with a new database driver which wil support true metacontacts instead of a fake and dangerous that we have now.

Post Merge: 31 12 2013, 23:12:33
We chose a rough path and we have a long way to go - but for me Miranda NG is way better than Miranda IM ever was (and i'm an active user since 2002).
Title: Re: Next version question
Post by: watcher on 01 01 2014, 11:16:17
The main thing about bugs - bug that ghazan can successfully reproduce on his machine is good as dead, so please - bare this in mind. If we don't know about some bug or can't repeat it, we can't fix it.
Title: Re: Next version question
Post by: Octopuss on 01 01 2014, 12:49:06
Oh no, I meant the original Miranda is in horrible state, which is why I decided to make the switch some time soon ;D
Title: Re: Next version question
Post by: watcher on 01 01 2014, 12:54:38
Oh no, I meant the original Miranda is in horrible state, which is why I decided to make the switch some time soon ;D

Thanks! Anyway - our NG have some unexpected bugs too sometimes, so all of the written above still good (if someone else chooses to read it) ;D, but overall i think we are already way better than Miranda IM, just cause of all the fixes and clean-ups. And it's time that we add some new features too - and we will.