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Плагины / YAMN: улетают учетные записи
« Last post by MisterMyth on Today at 06:49:36 »
Добрый день. Уже несколько раз замечаю, что периодически улетают учетные записи для проверки почты: в списке контактов они есть. А вот настройках их нет. Профиль пробовал и старый и новый.
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выдает сообщение "Фатальная ошибка ICQ. Неудачное подключение. Последовательность входа не удалась по неизвестной причине. Попробуйте позже."
Пробовал различные настройки сети, не помогает.  Нагугленные советы по настройкам явно устарели, т.к. тоже не работают.
Буду рад любой помощи :)
лог прикладываю
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В https://xmpp.org/rfcs/rfc6120.html#tcp-resolution это как-то двояко расписано. Но они в явном виде ссылаются на RFC2782, в котором процесс описан лучше. В частности, утверждается:

Если не получилось разрезолвить _service._proto.target (в нашем случае - _service = _xmpp-client, _proto = _tcp, target = jabber.ru), то клиент должен попытаться использовать А запись target'а.

В этом плане отсутствие А записи для _xmpp-client._tcp - вполне логично. А не использование А записи для jabber.ru - менее логично.
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Support/Help / Re: Skinning Miranda - tips?
« Last post by Aztek on 29 05 2017, 00:07:10 »
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Miranda is however still the only way to go for me. I do not have a smartphone and I despise all of the "facebooks" and whatever the kids use these days :P No seriously, why does an IM protocol need to know my phone number?
I'm a big supporter of internet privacy and such things - within reason, of course.  (which is the reason why I cannot use Telegram - I don't like someone knowing my phone number. If I wanted to use my phone, I'd send an SMS!).
It's actually a side-effect of being a direct competitor to WhatsApp i guess. It has pros and cons. When it comes to privacy Telegram should be actually on the podium, you can read about it on their site. When i was using Miranda i used Gadu-Gadu protocol, which has nothing to do with safety. I didn't had much trouble with switching, cuz this protocol was kinda dying already anyway. But hey, im not here to promote Telegram, i just admire it.

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I wasn't really thinking about it but yeah, I feel sad. Melancholic, at the very least.
I hope Miranda doesn't die.  :'(
It's not gonna die, because one telegram fag came in and is bit*hing around about it, don't worry :D
But yeah - problem with IT is that when you don't progress, you regress. You can't stand too long in one place.
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Support/Help / Re: Skinning Miranda - tips?
« Last post by Vulpix on 28 05 2017, 21:56:01 »
I migrated from IM when the "big divide" happened; but I used to do some troubleshooting with borkra related to MSN/Skype I believe. It's been such a long time ago. I didn't actually know IM was still alive. I guess it is not indifferent from NG right now though - it also only has one guy doing the work for the most part.

And I really like the miranda interface, believe it or not :D I've set it up for ~5 of my friends ish and we all use it. But as you have said, miranda is truly dated - and there are so many issues that one man simply cannot solve, even if he was actually dedicated to the task; but Ghazan - and all the other miranda guys who did stuff - have jobs and this is more of a hobby for them.

Miranda is however still the only way to go for me. I do not have a smartphone and I despise all of the "facebooks" and whatever the kids use these days :P No seriously, why does an IM protocol need to know my phone number?

I'm a big supporter of internet privacy and such things - within reason, of course.  (which is the reason why I cannot use Telegram - I don't like someone knowing my phone number. If I wanted to use my phone, I'd send an SMS!).

I don't know what the future of IM is. I guess that as long as there's at least one person doing something for Miranda, I will keep using it; it's been good to me all these years (since 2005 I believe; at least that is as far as my history reaches).

I wasn't really thinking about it but yeah, I feel sad. Melancholic, at the very least.

I hope Miranda doesn't die.  :'(
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Support/Help / Re: Skinning Miranda - tips?
« Last post by Aztek on 28 05 2017, 20:25:43 »
Yup, exactly - look&feel is miranda's weakness. I never really paid that much attention to that - i switched to Miranda in 2008 and since then i never looked at alternatives, i didn't have to. But friend showed me Telegram and i realized how outdated Miranda is. Everything there is so smooth, elegant, there is tons of features* and doesnt have an impact on performence**.
Meantime miranda's default look remembers Windows XP and trying to make it better by yourself has limitations, since (i think) noone really supports clist_modern and tabsrmm (i send a ticket with really simple tweak 4 years ago - http://trac.miranda-ng.org/ticket/410 no response at all***). I won't  even mention that these plugins themselves are super clunky. It's kinda shame, that there is no more revolutions in Miranda and i know it's actually hard to going on when there are only few devs.

Our situation is still better than in our friends' camp - Miranda IM. Did you visit their site recently? Tried to download plugins?

*kinda like facebook, but more simplistic, made waaay better.
**neither do miranda, but c'mon - compare these two.
***yup, confirmed. Nightwish doesn't maintain it any longer.
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Support/Help / Re: Skinning Miranda - tips?
« Last post by Robyer on 28 05 2017, 19:09:58 »
As a big limitation I see we are using the C++ with plain Windows Forms. Perhaps using better GUI toolkit would make huge difference regarding look&feel.

And then yeah... there is only few developers, only ghazan doing bigger changes but mostly internal non-GUI stuff.
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Development / Re: Facebook protocol
« Last post by Robyer on 28 05 2017, 18:55:00 »
BlackCat, it sounds like the request for getting users in group chat and their names is broken/removed from FB - that's why you are seeing the error message.

I don't know how soon I will get to fix that, so create ticket on our GitHub please: https://github.com/miranda-ng/miranda-ng/issues

Meanwhile you may disable group chat support in FB plugin's options. Or install Popup+/Yapp plugin so it will show notifications instead of MessageBoxes (and perhaps you can then even disable them).
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Support/Help / Re: Skinning Miranda - tips?
« Last post by Vulpix on 28 05 2017, 18:19:13 »
It's quite sad - but Miranda pretty much has only one active developer - Ghazan.

Then it has three sleeper agents - Robyer, Unsane

And a guy who added Omemo recently, but yeah.

Many of the recent additions (like support for Discord) and other fixes have been pretty much funded by me and coded by Ghazan (or Unsane and Robyer).

It is truly sad, but at least it hasn't been abandoned completely.
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Support/Help / Re: Skinning Miranda - tips?
« Last post by Aztek on 28 05 2017, 16:43:39 »
At this point i made messege window, inspired but not copied.

I have to admit, limitations of Miranda started to irritate me, that's why it took me so long.
I'm not happy enough with result either, but i feel its best what i can get.

In meantime i started to play with Telegram - it has godlike desktop client that truly belongs to 2017.
Looks good, plenty of functionality and still gets big updates. And that's when i decided to switch.
After almost 10 years of using Miranda, i miss big updates that could keep Miranda from drowning, but even when the fork NG kick in, there was no big changes and therefore future for Miranda. So now im just exporting my (gotta say rich) history and im making step ahead.
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